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desklets - Flecko

Flecko — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:43:43 +0200

No offense to the gdesklet folks, but gdesklets is not good software. I tried to love it for years, but it develops at an incredibly slow pace, is extremely buggy, and is prone to breakage. I had high hopes that gdesklets would get better with time, but it doesn't seem that way. (And before you tell me to go help them, I'm not a Python coder, and never will be.) Thats not to say that this new Moonlight desklets thing is the answer, but I wouldn't use gdesklets now anyways.

That being said, sorry to be negative. If gdesklets is improved, I will absolutely make sure I say so and give it a try, but I can't recommend it to anyone as it is.+

desklets - Jeff Schroeder

Jeff Schroeder — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:05:16 +0200

gdesklets also suffers from a mostly dead upstream, memory leaks, and made code.

Ask pyguy, the guy who wrote gdesklets.

desklets - Miguel de Icaza

Miguel de Icaza — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:53:58 +0200

Ah, that is a shame.

Anyways, I have posted a blog entry in my blog that explains why we are doing this. Basically: we want to toy, experiment and learn.

And we have a very nice platform that *we* like. Others might not like it, others might prefer SuperKaramba, gDesklets or to run a plain X server with twm. But like with language taste you cant really force the same on everyone.

miguel.

desklets - erik

erik — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:38:41 +0200

gDesklets failed. Completely.

Most of the desklets are really buggy. They also do not know about themeing. Meaning that they are bolted to some specific gtk/gnome themes etc, and you must use only the ones from the same set. And there are many sets, of bad quality. Bugs, lack of features, ..

Blah. gDesklets is a miserable failure, one of the worst I have ever seen on open source.

desklets - Jon

Jon — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:21:23 +0200

It's just NIH syndrome.

desklets - Benoît DEJEAN

Benoît DEJEAN — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:18:13 +0200

Hum, sorry Miguel, i don't know what happened. I can't see your comment anywhere.

desklets - Miguel de Icaza

Miguel de Icaza — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:56:59 +0200

Odd. I had a long post explaining our position on innovation and Moonlight desklets and it got deleted.

Maybe a database corruption issue?

desklets - anonim

anonim — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:53:08 +0200

yet another desklet technology... the fun about them is the hability to do desklets quick and easy, and that they would work everywhere. With so many different frameworks I don't think it's going to be easy... At least kde and gnome could get a freedesktop spec and both plasma & gdesklets implement them.

desklets - Benoît DEJEAN

Benoît DEJEAN — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:12:28 +0200

Benjamin > but gdesklets does exactly that ! You can even do simpler : ship the XML UI + some python scripting within the same XML file. Easy to get desklets. And you can use gdesklets with gnomevfs i.e. gdesklest http://...

Etienne > Moonlight is a demo ... so give you back your "It's not even part of Gnome desktop"

I don't want to ad for anything, but some people think that the SomethingLight approach is new. It's not. There are already many popular desklets engine, gdesklets being the more GNOMEish.

desklets - Benjamin Otte

Benjamin Otte — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:59:09 +0200

There's one huge advantage in using Flash or Silverlight for desklets: You can download new ones from the web and have them run in a sandboxed environment without them being able to do evil things.

That's about the cool things. The rest is just "we need a way to pimp our cool technology."

desklets - bersace

bersace — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:37:35 +0200

Hi,

You're right, but gdesklet needs more love. It's not even part of Gnome desktop :s. I'm pretty sure MacSlow could do some great job on it !

Étienne.

desklets - Ceasar

Ceasar — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:34:41 +0200

Not to mention it means another opportunity to look good in front of Microsoft...

desklets - Miguel de Icaza

Miguel de Icaza — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:33:26 +0200

Hey!

We know about gdesklets, but we want to build our own because building them with XAML and C# is quite fun.

Miguel.